My thanks to Larry DiStasi
for accepting my invitation to Comment on
my Message regarding John DeMatteo's bringing
to our attention certain
Observations he made in reading Joseph E. Persico's
recently published
book, "Roosevelt's Secret War.."
Amongst the ABSORBING DiStasi information, I found
the most intriguing:
(1) Japanese on Hawaii (nearly 40% of the islands),
although at the very
site of the Sneak Attack, and 5,000 miles closer
to Japan, were NOT
mass-interned.
(2) Italians on the EAST Coast NARROWLY escaped
the Fate of WEST
Coast Italian Americans.
(3) The FBI PRIOR to the war, had lists of both
non-citizens AND CITIZENS
of Italian descent who were considered "potentially
dangerous."
(4) But this List was NOT used, and Italians
were moved EN MASSE only
because they were of Italian origin--most of
them old ladies who had never
seen the need to apply for citizenship.
(5) Some American CITIZENS of Italian descent
were INTERRED
(6) That when I-As turn a "blind eye" to "injustice",
we INVITE more!
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Richard:
You're substantially right. I haven't read Persico's
book, but it sounds
as if it perpetuates the same old canard that has been repeated ad
nauseam for 20 years.
1) There is no question that a distinction was made
between the aliens
of European descent who were targeted and the mass relocation and
internment of 120,000 Americans of Japanese descent, 2/3 of whom were
American born. For the most part, but not entirely by any means, the
major group subject to government restrictions among German and Italians
was the non-citizen group, the so-called "enemy aliens."
2) There is no question that racist attitudes prevailed,
both among
government officials and among the general public. one needs only read
the newspapers of the time to see that. However, as Stephen Fox was
the
first to argue, it was not just racism that got the Japanese on the
west
coast interned. It was also their limited numbers, their concentration
in
west coast areas, and the terrific animosity that was generated by
the
Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Otherwise, the Japanese on Hawaii
would also have been interned en masse, but because of their numbers
(nearly 40% of the islands) and their economic importance, they were
NOT mass-interned there.
3) One reason Germans and Italians were spared mass
internment
was their numbers: Italians were the largest foreign born group in
America
at the time, and the Germans were second. There were 900,000 who were
enemy aliens: 600,000 of Italian descent, and 300,000 of German descent.
The government seriously considered doing the same thing on the East
coast as if did on the West coast--that is, evacuate enemy aliens from
coastal areas and sensitive installations. General Drum of the Eastern
Defense Command had a plan already in place to remove all enemy aliens
from the coast from Maryland up to Rhode Island. BUT IT WOULD HAVE
MEANT MOVING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND WOULD HAVE
DEVASTATED THE WAR ECONOMY, NOT TO MENTION CAUSING
ENORMOUS RESISTANCE AMONG HUGE POPULATIONS. The plan
was dropped in May of 1942, at the Order of the President.
The point is: the War Department <underline>wanted</underline>
to
do it, as it also wanted to remove all Italian and German Aliens from
the
entire Pacific Slope--the area it had already cleared of Japanese.
But
again, this was stopped by higher-ups.
The other point: this was a <underline>mass evacuation.</underline>
it was NOT selective, as the govt has always insisted, not done only
to
individuals who were targeted because of their sentiments. These people
were moved because they were of Italian origin--most of them old ladies
who had never seen the need to get citizenship. The books have
completely ignored this movement.
4) There were, on the lists prepared by the FBI in
the years leading
up to the war, both non-citizens AND CITIZENS of German and Italian
descent who were considered "potentially dangerous." Many of these
citizens were arrested and detained. A few hundred were among those
who were excluded from military areas on both coasts--the individual
exclusion program. So to say that only Japanese Americans, i.e. U.S.
citizens, were affected is not true. Also, I am aware of at least two
internees of Italian descent who were, in fact, naturalized citizens.
5) There's a lot more to this. Italian Americans,
though, ought to
start learning more about this period in their own history. For the
most
part, they are willing to simply ignore it and shrug their shoulders.
It's
the "oh this didn't really bother us" phase of denial. But if they
read
some of the stories that we have collected (some of which are in my
recent book, Una Storia Segreta), they'll begin to get the idea that
thousands were affected, some never recovered, and the Italian
community has been completely derelict in its duty to itself and to
the
larger community in letting the lies and half-truths continue to be
perpetrated about such a significant episode in its history.
This is what I consider collusion in our own victimization.
Larry DiStasi
Project Director
Una Storia Segreta
[RAA Note: Probably a matter of semantics, but I took the position,
that the Japanese were not victims of racism (Almost all other Asians,
the Chinese, the Filipinos, entire South East Asia were our allies),
but
victims of rage!!
Unless you use the term "racism" in reference to a "nationality", then
of
course, there was not only anti- Japanese racism high in the Government,
but also against Italians.
Was this general WASP discrimination, or the US anger toward Japan,
for the the Invasion of Manchuria, and China, including wholesale brutality,
in the mode of the "Rape of Peking".
The US had mixed feelings about Italy's Fascists, because they were
keeping the Communists under control, but Italians or IAs were not
held
in high regard, i.e inferior, therefore racist.
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