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Friday, January 29, 2010
Holocaust Remembrance Day- The Holocaust in Italy is a Hoax !!!!!!!

Holocaust Remembrance Day. The Jewish Community had a Reading "Event" revolving around NAZIs Deporting from Italy, 8,000 Non Italian Refugee Jews back to Germany/East Europe to certain deaths in Labor camps from overwork, disease or deprivation.
This was scheduled in front of the Italian Consulate in NY ??? And Have Italian Diplomatic persons and Important Italian Americans take turns in reading the names of the dead Refugees, who were well treated while under Italian Jurisdiction.????? 
 
WHY ??? Is this supposed to be a Guilt Trip?? REALLY !!!!!   Instead the Jewish Community should be holding a "RIGHTEOUS ITALY Day", to commemorate that Italy was Not only the most Hospitable Country in Europe to Jews, and made the greatest efforts in protecting and aiding Jews, that ITALIANS  put their lives at risk, and in many cases paid with their own lives !!!!!!. 
 
NO  Italian or Non Italian Jews were Killed in any CAMPS or OTHERWISE in ITALY !!!!!!!! There was NO ITALIAN HOLOCAUST !!!!
 
NO  Italian Jews , and or Non Italian Jews were Imprisoned  or were even Deported to Eastern Europe Concentration Camps, at any time while ITALY was still in the War .   Jews were Sheltered by Christians that faced a Firing Squad/Death for those actions
 
SEE: Between Mussolini and Hitler: The Jews and the Italian Authorities: Fascists Protected Jews from Nazis.               
An H-NET Review: http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/reviewsh9.htm
 
SEE: Jews in Italy During the Holocaust: How the Italians Helped Jewish Refugees in World War II 
http://ww2history.suite101.com/article.cfm/
jews_in_italy_during_the_holocaust#ixzz0dz65LJ9m

The 8600 Non Italian German/Eastern European Refugees Jews were rounded up by Nazis, after Italy surrendered to the Allies, and Italy  was CONTROLLED by the NAZIs [The time period cited below 1938-1945 is INCORRECT]  Italy surrendered Sept 8, 1943. 
In Truth, During the German occupation of Italy, 8,628 Jews were deported from Italy and its territories, according to historian Liliana Picciotto. On Jan. 30, 1944, one of the 15 deportation trains to leave Milan carried 605 Jews to Auschwitz.
 
Of no apparent concern to Remembrance people, is that the Fascists deported  23,000 Political opponents.(Not Race or Religion)
(Being Deported,  Should I assume they were Foreign Agitators? You don't deport Citizens. Maybe " Abu Ghraib" them ? :)  
 
More than 20,000  ITALIAN  CIVILIANS were Massacred  in over 100 incidents by NAZIs in Italy during WWII. 
 
More Than 200,000 Eastern European Jews were ASSISTED in escaping from Europe through Trieste, ITALY  who were more likely to be refugees from Nazism than ardent Zionist pioneers. Trieste, an Italian port, with a small but influential Jewish community was the "Gateway to Zion," one of the most important outlets for Jewish emigration to Palestine, particularly after the rise of Nazism in Germany. Later actions of Zionism that seemed to become a "tool" of British aspirations in the Mediterranean,prompted Italy to require Loyalty oaths in the "Purity"  laws in 1938, http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=19973423    
 
 "Lloyd Triestino" [founded and HQ in Trieste) (now "Italia Maritimma")  by 1940, owned a fleet of 85 vessels, many plying the Trieste - Palestine Route. For several years the Bernstein Firm operated two ships on the Trieste - Haifa route. The Jewish captain, Umberto Steindler of the Jerusalem boasted over one hundred trips to Palestine.
 
My fellow Jews who use such occasions to carry on the tired discredited tirade about Pius XII "Not doing enough to save Jews", despite Overwhelming evidence to the contrary including Overwhelming outpouring of Thanks from all World Jewish Leaders after WWII, and the critics waiting until Pius XII died, and could not defend himself.  INGRATES and COWARDS !!!!! 
 
It looks like ITALY deserves about SIX  Remembrance Days !!!!!!!!! (Can your guy call my guy ??) 
 
What is enough? Reminds me of my Father, where NOTHING was enough. I would get a 98 grade in school . He would say "Where are the other 2 ?? I would get a 100, He would say "You can't do it again" !! If I Did, I was Lucky. Nothing was ever enough!!!!!
 
Besides, We say we are "God's Chosen People". Obviously it is God's Work, God gave us Israel!!! Instructed us to Massacre all the current residents (Philistines and Canaanites).  Christians believe THEY Serve GOD. We Know GOD serves the JEWS. GOD frequently Punishes the Jews for straying from (violating) Our Covenant. Look to Ourselves. 
 
It is a little embarrassing when Israel's PM would NOT RECOGNIZE the ARMENIAN MASSACRE, also known as the Armenian Holocaust, because it did not want to jeopardize Israel's commercial relations withTURKEY, the Perpetrator !!!!!!!!!   The Armenian Holocaust, occurred between 1915-1917, involving up to 1,5 million.  Is the ISRAEL PM's actions  HOLOCAUST DENIAL?????  
 
[NOTE: Holocaust Remembrance Day. On April 12, 1951, The Knesset arbitrarily chose 27th of Nissan. The name later became known as Yom Hashoah Ve Hagevurah (Devastation and Heroism Day) and even later simplified to Yom Hashoah.   If the 27th of Nissan would affect Shabbat (fall on Friday or Saturday), then it would be moved. If the 27th of Nissan falls on a Friday, Holocaust Remembrance Day is moved to the preceding Thursday. If the 27th of Nissan falls on a Sunday, then Holocaust Remembrance Day is moved to the following Monday. ]  This year the date was Wednesday January 27. 



Added Issue in Recalling Holocaust in Italy 
The New York Times, By Paul Vitello; January 28, 2010
As they have for the past four years, prominent people and passers-by joined together outside New York?s Italian Consulate on Wednesday to take turns reading the names of 8,600 Jews rounded up in Italy between 1938 and 1945, never to be seen again.

But this year?s observance of Holocaust Remembrance Day carried an added weight of silence, coming soon after the outbreak of an international, interfaith controversy over the proposed canonization of Pope Pius XII, who presided in Rome during World War II.

None of the readers, including Cardinal Edward M. Egan and several prominent rabbis, made mention of the dispute while standing at microphones planted along Park Avenue, reciting names that included about 1,000 Roman Jews rounded up by German and Italian authorities in a single day, Oct. 16, 1943.

?I would be foolish to say anything beyond what Pope Benedict said last week when he visited the synagogue in Rome,? Cardinal Egan said in an interview before the ceremony. 

Benedict XVI visited that city?s Great Synagogue on Jan. 17, a month after setting off protests by signing a decree that initiated the process of making Pius XII a saint. He told assembled Jewish leaders there that he would never forget ?the Roman Jews who were snatched from their homes before these very walls,? but provoked further criticism by adding the assertion that the Vatican helped Jews during the Holocaust, ?often in a hidden and discreet way.?

Many historians contend that Pius XII did not do enough to save Jews during the Holocaust. The Vatican has long said that Pius, who was pope from 1939 to 1958, helped save many Jews who were hidden in Roman Catholic churches, monasteries and convents.

Natalia Indrimi, one of the organizers of Wednesday?s event and director of the New York office of Centro Primo Levi, a group dedicated to the history of Italian Jews, said the question of Pius?s role during the Holocaust would be settled only when all papal records of the wartime period were unsealed by the Vatican, which so far has released only some. 

"It is up to the church to make its own decisions about canonization",  she said. "But any claim that Pius did something or didn?t do something is only a claim until all the records can be studied by the historians".  [But just as in the US, Presidential Archives, for instance are NOT permitted to be Released by Protocols, despite the desires of the current administration]

The reading of the names took all day. Public officials, clergy members, prominent citizens and scholars came, stood before a bank of four microphones, read about 20 names each, then left. In the morning, Bishop Nicholas A. DiMarzio of Brooklyn stood next to Matilda Cuomo, the wife of the ex-governor, reading names. In the afternoon, there were ambassadors and businessmen. 

Rabbi Avi Weiss, an outspoken leader in the Orthodox Jewish community and director of the Hebrew Institute of Riverdale, in the Bronx, was...(not present). For the record, Rabbi Weiss said that if he had been there, "I think I would have found it impossible to remember those mercilessly killed without raising my voice in protest against plans to beatify Pius XII, a world leader who could have raised his voice and did not." ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/28/nyregion/28holocaust.html
 
 

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